Newsom decries Yes on 8 ad claims as 'absurd' and as an attempt to 'distract' voters from harm ballot measure would cause

wow, the gay progressive movement is really getting angry... baring their fangs... growling loud... you crazy bible thumpers... intolerant of gays... we won't have your forcing your opinion down our throats....

Isn't the irony delicious... they are guilty of everything they say about the Yes on 8 side. Let's both sides agree we are intolerant of each other on this issue. We both hate the other sides position on this issue. Get over it. We want to stop you from degrading our society and you want us to stop ruining your little utopian version of society... let's just go to the polls and see what happens.

a nazi? I love it how nearly everyone that is voting No on 8 plays the "intolerance" card. For that matter, I'll bet that nearly every gay person that has ever fought for their "rights" has used the intolerance card at some point. The intolerance claim is a little cliche now. But what about my beliefs? Is my religious acceptance of you as a person not enough? Is my constant personal struggle with the issue and how far I should let your so called "born with" desires into my personal life not good enough for you people now? Do I now have to let your beliefs in to my life and allow your desires to affect my own morals and ideals instead of just accept you for who you are but personally disagree with you? Am I not allowed to believe what I want now. Prop 8 isn't about gays being married or not. It isn't about money or love or people passively believing what they will any longer. It's about you people hypocritically forcing me to believe what you want me to believe. It's about changing the country's founding documentation "The Constitution" to nullify my rights to believe whatever the heck I want. Feelings and desires don't make a gay person gay, the physical interaction between two persons is what defines a gay person. The same way thinking of killing someone doesn't make you a killer, the act does. So I now pose a question. Is a person's sexual preference really something we as a nation now want to allow to change the law? Do we really want to give up our rights to believe or not believe in God simply because someone wants to disguise their hypocritical desires and force them upon us? If we as a nation are ready to give up our rights to believe what we will then I feel for every man woman and child that ever laid down their lives to protect these freedoms we may very well lose to a few selfish and hypocritical people. I know this is a little cheesy, but this goes way beyond what most of you realize.

Someone having different values as you isn't by rote a "nazi". Someone could call you "nazi" for forcing your views on others too, couldn't they?

you are hate filled and you are a nazi and stop pretending otherwise. Trying to make yourself feel good about your hate is not going to work here.

To Richard from Fresno,

Your comment that adoption agencies should be sued for discriminating against same-sex couples is exactly why it is so important for prop 8 to pass. Why should adoption agencies be forced to put children in homes that are not ideal for the child. Studies have shown that the ideal environment for a child is with one mother and one father. Gay adoption does not provide that kind of environment.

You claim that marriage is only about "love" and a couple of adults. I disagree. I say that marriage is about the children. The state doesn't have an obligation to extend benefits (extra marriage-type benefits) to anyone, but it has historically extended marital benefits to heterosexual couples. This is because heterosexual couples have the ability to conceive and raise children that can be contributors to society. Until recently, gay couples were unable to conceive and raise children, which brings me to my next point. A child raised with his biological mother and biological father has the highest chances to succeed and be an influence of good on the society. A wise state should offer incentives to people that will encourage corporately beneficial behavior, and this is why marriage should only be defined as between one man and one woman.

Same-sex marriage is already being taught in Mass. schools (and when parents want to be notified of such sessions so their children can opt out, the school district won't do it because it's STATE LAW) so don't tell me that it won't happen. How many parents are OK with their children being taught in school (as early as 2nd grade) about the love 2 princes had for one another? I don't think so.

You mention that the restrictions against preachers who preach against same-sex marriage is ONLY taking place in Canada. That's because they've legalized gay marriage! See, when we point to examples of what happens to a country after gay marriage is legalized, we are trying to forecast what the future looks like for California. Canadians had freedom of speech before gay marriage was legalized, so why couldn't that same result happen here in America?

One of the No on 8's strongest arguments is that gay marriage is really no big deal. C'mon, it's just 2 people that love each other. It's not hurting anybody. That is why the Yes on 8 campaign has to combat that line of thinking with actual, concrete evidence of how other countries (who've legalized gay marriage) have seen restrictions on freedom of speech, religion, parental rights and adoption agency rights.

This is a big deal! Our children's future is at stake! California has been notorious for leading the American progressive charge, but here is a clear opportunity for our great state to draw a line in the sand and say "NO MORE." We will not allow 4 activist judges to overturn the will of millions of Californians.

Please Richard, consider the consequences that a "NO" vote will have, and come over to our side and vote "YES."

Not all gays are against Prop 8. I'm still waiting to hear from the gays who are FOR prop 8, just as they were FOR Prop 22. Why haven't they spoken out? Could it be that they are quiet out of fear? Look at the backlash of "hate" speech toward heterosexuals....just imagine what gays in California would say about other gays who support Prop 8!!! Oh my!!!

What I wrote was "Same-sex marriage is not going to be taught in school any more than opposite sex marriage is". If marriage is going to be talked about at all, it SHOULD include same-sex marriages as well as "traditional" marriages.
You stated that some students walked out of the film(ing) and were called "haters" for not sitting through it. So I am to assume it was other students were calling them "haters", right? How is it that you have managed to morph those students into "homosexuals"? Are you telling us that ALL of those calling the kids that walked out were in fact, gay? How could you possibly know this? Even if they were in fact ALL gay, you are now going to use that one incident of name calling to push for a constitutional amendment that will forbid you gay cousin (which you state you love like a BROTHER)from ever being able to get married to the person he loves?
Maybe you should try looking on the other side of the fence for a bit and see how gays and lesbians are treated by our society...including you. Don't think it's you too? All you have to do is look in the mirror to see someone that is trying to destroy thousands of legal, loving marriages.

This ad portrays Gavin Newsom exactly as he is: A loud-mouthed nutcase who wants to force his beliefs down the throats of everyone else. This selfish crackpot and his reverberatingly Howard Dean-like scream has ruined his chances of being governor.

"Any Two-some" Newsome really has no credibility anyomore to talk about marriage.

I mean the guy slept with his co-worker's (and friend's) wife! He's obviously using this for his own political gain. Personally I hate the ultra-liberal slimeball for his tyrannical attitude.

He's the George Bush of the Democratic party.

Last time I checked, marriage IS about love and a couple of adults making a choice...the choice to spend the rest of their live together.
In our schools: Same-sex marriage is not going to be taught in school any more than opposite sex marriage is. If marriage is brought up, it should be inclusive.

Churches are not going to be sued for refusing to perform same-sex marriages. Churches are private institutions. Church owned building that ARE open to the public are a different matter. The often touted New Jersey lawsuit by two lesbians had to do with a church owned pavilion that was open for public use on a boardwalk. They sued for the USE of the pavilion, NOT to have the church perform any ceremony. The church lost...rightfully so.

Adoption: Once again, this has nothing to do with prop 8. However, adoption agencies that discriminate against same-sex couples, or gay singles, SHOULD be sued. If they don't want to deal with the issue, then stop offering adoptions...the choice is theirs.

"Ministers who preach against same-sex marriages may be sued for hate speech and risk government fines. It already happened in Canada..." Nice try...read that again. IN CANADA! Last time I checked, California in in the United States, NOT Canada. In California, we still have freedom of speech. Preach all the hatred you want
...all in the name of Jesus, Amen.

It will cost taxpayers: You list several examples of lawsuits, none of which involve you or I as taxpayers. If you want to avoid spending money on a lawsuit, try not discriminating against you fellow man.

You ask: "All this risk, for what benefit? The title "Marriage?" " Is that all marriage is to you? A title? I am obviously much more blessed than you, as my marriage means so much more to me than merely a "title"...my same-sex marriage by the way.

"Prop 8 takes nothing away from civil unions or partner laws." You're right, what it does take away is my right to marry whomever I want. Don't like gay marriage? Don't have one, but I refuse to give up my rights because it makes you uncomfortable.

I think it's plain naivete if we don't consider the consequences before allowing marriage to be redefined.  Not only will Gay "Marriage" be taught in public schools but these things need to be honestly debated.  It's not just about love and personal choice of a few adults:

In our schools-- Children will be taught that marriage is between any two adults regardless of gender.  There will be serious clashes between the secular school system and the right of parents to teach their children their own values and beliefs.
Churches may be sued over their tax exempt status if they refuse to allow same-sex marriage ceremonies in their religious buildings open to the public.

Religious adoption agencies will be challenged by government agencies to give up their long-held right to place children only in homes with both a mother and a father. Catholic Charities in Boston already closed its doors in Massachusetts because courts legalized same-sex marriage there.

Ministers who preach against same-sex marriages may be sued for hate speech and risk government fines. It already happened in Canada, a country that legalized gay marriage.  A recent California court held that municipal employees may not say: “traditional marriage,” or “family values” because, after the same-sex marriage case, it is “hate speech.”

It will cost taxpayers-- This change in the definition of marriage will bring a cascade of lawsuits, including some already lost (e.g., photographers cannot now refuse to photograph gay marriages, doctors cannot now refuse to perform artificial insemination of gays even given other willing doctors).  Even if courts eventually find in favor of a defender of traditional marriage (highly improbable given today’s activist judges), think of the money – your money – that will be spent on such legal battles.

All this risk, for what benefit?  The title "Marriage?"  Prop 8 takes nothing away from civil unions or partner laws.  What it does is protect and preserve traditional marriage.

look the commercial is right. we dont have to live with this. it doesn't have to be taught in school as normal. look prop 8 is our opportunity to say that OUR VOTES MATTER. its stupid that 4 people can overturn 4 million peoples votes. gavin newsom there is a reason people laugh at you be ashamed