Poll: young voters support Prop 8

You want religion out of it? Fine. Let's take religion out of it and argue from a leftist, atheist perspective that you can appreciate. You remember the "Law" of Evolution that you successfully force down our children's throats every day in school, right? Well, exactly what biological purpose do homosexuals serve? Where do they promote the "fitness" of our specie? How do they propogate the progeny into the next generation? Your own "Lord Darwin" predicted that natural selection should progressively eliminate confounding factors such as homosexuality that would reduce individual female fecundity and overall specie fitness.

You say that this gay marriage issue is not going to be forced on our children in public school? Take the above example as a historic parallel - you liberals wanted Creationism and/or Intelligent Design out of the public school curriculum completely and want the "Law" of Evolution taught as the only possible explanation.

You people are hypocrites - "stay out of my bedroom Uncle Sam", but when you want your agenda force fed to society you are all too eager to use the government and the courts to try and forcefully change society.

Thank God the conservatives still own most of the guns.

I think this fictional situation is applicable to the prop 8 situation.

There is a fictional country Massafornia. In Massafornia the majority of religious people recognize and observe sunday as the
divinely appointed sabbath day. A minority of religious people recognize and observe saturday as the divinely appointed sabbath. The government grants several special privileges to those who observe the
sunday sabbath. The law has recently changed to also grant those same privileges to saturday observers. Now the sunday sabbath observers are attempting to change the law so that the government only
recognizes sunday as the sabbath for its citizens.

Are the sunday observers justified?

Try to justify the sunday observers actions with any of the justifications to support prop 8.

I wouldn't advise anyone to invest there. Gays have always been the canary in the coal mine. Wherever you find religious radicalism, you find poverty and turmoil. Mark my words: California is on its way down.

This is not a theocracy. With all due respect to what certain Christians are saying, the US was never intended to be an exclusively Christian nation, much less a "Christian" nation according to narrow-minded ideas of what Christianity is. Did Jesus ever say anything against homosexuals? Not according to the Gospels. Did he say lots of things about loving your neighbor, feeding the hungry and clothing the naked? Yes, he did -- but you'd never know it, the way some "Christians" are obsessing about who sleeps with whom. What happened? Is there no more poverty, no more hunger, no more unjust war, so now you're free to concentrate on trying to make everyone's love life just like yours?

I've been married to the same woman for 26 years now. We have two children. One of them is partnered with a male-to-female transsexual. If Proposition 8 passes, my daughter and her partner will still be able to marry -- in a dishonest way, since while her partner identifies as female, her partner's birth certificate still says "male." Chew on that one for a while, fundies. And then tell me: if my daughter marries a woman, how does that diminish our marriage?

I think it's a totally sick idea that denying marriage to people who love each other somehow helps different-sex marriages. No one can explain just how it helps or protects marriage; they just blather on about the "assault on marriage," while assaulting other people's rights.

Grant, the part of the bible that says homosexuality is wrong (leviticus), also says that it's ok for me to own a slave. So are you going to put the legalization of slavery on the ballot next year? Maybe we should also ban shellfish (also in the Bible; you should read it sometime.) After all, in your world, that would be God's will.

America is about freedom not denial of rights.

Vote no on eight.

This is insane. Nonsense. This is America, there is no such thing as separate but equal. And the rights of a minority should never be held to the whims of the majority. That's not democracy, that's a tyranny of the majority.

If you have a fair bone in your body, you will vote No.

The previous post was a reply to "gay voting yes on 8"

Very sad that many Mormons support 8. They have forgotten their very own teaching of Article of Faith 11: We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

And certainly they have forgotten their polygamy cases. They still believe that when a man enters the highest Glory of God must practice plural wives lifestyle.

Mormons, why do you believe one and practice the other?

Ok-Ok, enough is enough! Don’t we have anything else better to do come Election Day! As an openly gay male, who did 23 years of services as an “openly gay police officer” with the LAPD, I think it is time for someone to say to the GLBT Community, “STOP egging on religious right radical heterosexuals!” We have better things to worry about than what someone else “labels” my (our) relationship (s).
Come November 5th, I do not expect my life with my domestic partner to change one bit-NO MATTER HOW PROP 8 TURNS OUT! After reading my California Election guide sent by the state in the US mail; I find this whole matter to be petty nonsense. Give what has been happening to our nation, this matter is a much to-do about nothing and is a kin to spitting into the wind people. To the trendy/ politically correct “West Hollywood and San Francisco drama queens (the people with NO life) pushing this whole proposition (on BOTH SIDES) I say, GROW UP PEOPLE-WHO CARES!” In nut shell this is all about “nomenclature”, “vernacular” and “political correctness”-NOT ABOUT “RIGHTS” OR WHAT WILL (WILLNOT) BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS. So, to this end, I will probably Vote “yes” just because hopefully, the activist in the gay community will give up and leave the heterosexual people alone-they have enough to worry about these days.
If anyone will lose in this deal; it will be the State of California and the loss of “sales tax revenues” from all the trendy drama queens rushing to the alter to get hitched. The state won’t be making about 200.00 per marriage license, or all the other “state fees”. My domestic partnership papers with the City of LA cost me nothing at all-they were free and legally binding. The State on the other hand wants 55.00 to file a domestic partnership paper-guess which one I opted for! Why (in these hard times) would I ever want to pay for something when I already get it f “free!” Whatever you call it is mildly interesting to me.
If these crazy heterosexual people want to throw their money down the drain and give it to The State of California-SO BE IT! WHO CARES! I ALREADY PAY ENOUGH TAXES AND STATE FEES! I NEED A BREAK! I am really leaning towards voting yes on this because I dislike the trendy-petty drama queens and overly forceful lesbians always telling me how I should think and how I should vote. At least the religious right has grounded their arguments in “tradition” and I have to admit there is something to be said for this type of belief system.

FYI: This measure would do nothing to take away any rights, real or implied, that these individuals/couples had prior to the Supreme Courts May 2008 end-run around the will of the people!

These so called 'rights' were inordinately granted by 4 activist judges, who represented the voices of the very vocal minority, and overturned the voice of 6 million+ voters. We should all be outraged by that effort!

A Yes Prop 8 restores what the people of CA overwhelmingly voted for.

Buyer beware! The activists all say this won't effect schools, churches, children. Watch what is taking place in MA - guaranteed that is what will happen in CA unless we take a stand. Do your homework, vote your conscience -- YES on 8!